(John Walker) wrote:

<snip>

>In another also,  I think it is wrong
>to go after someones livelihood just because they
>express ideas which you don't agree with.
>
>The idea of debate is to have a free and open discussion
>of issues -- not to attempt ruining the lives of all who
>don't go along with your agenda.  In order to preserve
>the spirit of freedom and open inquiry we are obligated,
>in a free but adversarial society, to allow for differences
>of opinion regardless of how radical they may appear to our
>own sensitivities.
>
>In exchanging viewpoints, the idea is to inform, not to punish.
>
>I am surprised anyone has to be reminded of this.
>
>Behave.
>===========================
>- John Walker

John is right, we have to be more civilized on the net, sabotaging 
somebodies' job is a bad thing to do.  Something I would only reserve 
for my worst enemies, not just somebody I would debate with on the 
net, no matter how much of a jerk they are. 

Alex Osinski

I'm hoping you could help me out with the term for cell-phone. My
girlfriend is a native Hungarian who wants to be able to write home about
her job selling phones... however, she never learned the term.  I wouldn't
be surprised if it is simply a corrupted form of the english word like
many of the adopted foreign terms.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

-- 
Chris Jackel

First, a word about the newsgroup list, and crossposting in general.

I have posted twice on this thread, and both times received miscellaneous
email requests to keep this out of one particular newsgroup or another.  
While I do sympathize with the sentiment behind the email, I think these
requests are misguided and, under the circumstances, offensive.

First, in a practical sense, there is no reasonable way to prune the
newsgroup list once the thread has started.  After the original
poster created such a large list, people responded from many 
different groups.  I have no way of knowing where a post came
from, who is interested and who is not.  An email message or
a post asking me to stay away only represents the view of a single
person, and I cannot tell if it is the wish of the newsgroup as
a whole -- not to mention that I do not necessarily have to respect
the will of the newsgroup.  I post where I want, not where people
like what I have to say.  As an excample, this thread contains
some posts on anti-semitism in Poland, as well as a request or 
two to keep Jewish vs. anti-semite material out of 
soc.cultural.polish!  

Second, and more importantly, we are talking about an incident
of anti-semitism so outlandish and vile (complete with Nazi
rhetoric about a "Jewish problem") that it arguably constitutes
hate speech.  The outrage has occurred in your newsgroup, whether 
you asked for it or not, and is therefore your concern.  It is also
the concern of Jews and of concerned individuals everywhere.  How 
dare you tell me to shut up and keep quiet about an anti-Jewish
incident that occurred in your back yard.  To me, hearing a 
soc.cultural.polish reader tell me to stay out of his newsgroup
with my complaints of anti-semitism is not much different than
hearing a Polish citizen complain that Jews in America should
mind their own business and leave Poland alone regarding 
incidents of anti-semitism there.  Sorry, but I will not be
silent.

In article >,
John Walker > wrote:

>While I have no desire to enter the fray on either side,
>I would ask a little consideration for everyone to
>excercise more reason than has been displayed.

hear, hear.

>It is not correct to say someone is guilty of a crime
>if that person has not been found guilty by due process.
>Indeed, would such an unjust charge be published about
>me, I would have just grounds for libel.

You are incorrect on both points.  A person commits a
crime when he acts (or fails to act) in a way that is
forbidden by criminal laws.  He is only *convicted*
of a crime, and criminal penalties are imposed, after
his crime is found by a court of law.  A person's
speculation that certain acts of yours (when the
acts themselves are not in question) constitute a
crime is clearly a judgment regarding the countours of
the criminal law, and not your behavior -- and as
such is not grounds for libel.  Even where the acts
themselves are disputed, the standards for determining
libel are much different (and much less forgiving of
the wrongdoer) than those of the criminal law.

>Note, I am not saying that you cannot make your accusations;
>merely that you are obligated in the name of clarity to be specific.

Sure -- you are obligated, as a thinking and a considerate
person, to back up what you say.

>In another also,  I think it is wrong
>to go after someones livelyhood just because they
>express ideas which you don't agree with.

Were we reasonably debating ideas, you would have an arguable
point -- arguable and not self-evident, because it is perfectly
reasonable in academia to advocate for hiring and firing people
based on which ideological camp they sit in within their field.
But Karl's posts are really not ideas, they are hate speech.
Their purpose is not to educate, to state a position, to invite
dialogue (his protests to the contrary notwithstanding).  Rather,
he is stirring trouble.  The ideas themselves are offensive and
useless; no reasonable debate can occur on whether there is a
"Jewish problem" in the world.   As such, it is not that I
happen to disagree, but that the ideas are "wrong" in a deeper
sense.  It is like uttering the word "nigger" or divulging
national secrets or committing libel or treason -- words that 
fall so far outside the norms of a civilized society become
behavior, not speech.

Not only is this man's behavior totally inappropriate for
one in an academic position, but it is certainly the perogative
of the school to dismiss someone for publicly advocating
racist positions that bring shame and disrepute on the school.
Karl can say whatever he wants, but that does not mean that
the University of Texas must hire him and support him in his
attempts to spread racist hate.  As an academic, they have
hired him to create a body of thoughtful, reasonable
research.  He has failed them by instead creating a trail of
bitterness, accusations, and anger.  The university ought to
know what kind of garbage they are subsidizing on their 
payroll and from their computer accounts, so they can make
their own decision on whether or not to keep him in his 
position.

>In order to preserve
>the spirit of freedom and open inquiry we are obligated,
>in a free but adversarial society, to allow for differences
>of opinion regardless of how radical they may appear to our
>own sensitivities.

You have the first half of it down.  But freedom of speech
has never, and can never be absolute.  Any serious scholar
of the constitution can tell you this.  It has never been
the position of the Supreme Court, the founding fathers, 
or the legal/political philosophers that all utterances must
be tolerated.  Rather, freedom of speech implies a necessary
creation of boundaries -- norms by which the participants
in the great dialogue of ideas agree to live by.  When
freedom of speech degenerates into mere shouting, provocations,
lies, threats, plots, then it is meaningless.

This only seems like a paradox until you spend some time
trying to understand it.

In article >,
> wrote:
>Brigitta Bali > wrote:
>To Barsai:
>><yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>
>
>Brigitta:
>Just remember the old saying about the barking dogs.  Gabor's
>immature obsession with the same subject can only mean that he seldom
>gets any.  Lacking it, our fake "Don Juan" likes to talk about it.
>Joe

 (Gabor Barsai) wrote:
|Joe, you sound like you were never young in the spring time. What else
|would I think about? Tell me you never think about it when you're
|crossing a park full of women in bikinis.

When I was young in the spring I wrote this:

They love you because
you are Sister of the Sun
You are one their eyes
cannot look upon
though they risk in vain
desperate and quick attempts

They love you because
you are Daughter of the Day
They cannot hold you
though they love within
your invisible embrace
They know when you are with them
because you live
between dawn and dusk

They love you because
you are Angel of the Evening
They love you though they know
they cannot possess you
because your lover is Night
and he awes all mouths mute
because he is bearer of confidence
to the hands of lovers

They love you because
they know you will always return
to open their eyes with bendictions
you are Madonna of the Morning
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Brigitta Bali ) wrote:
: In >
:  (Gyorgy Kovacs)
: :In article >,
: :Brigitta Bali > wrote:
: : (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
: :>>OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.
: :>
: : (Gyorgy Kovacs)acts dumb:
: :>|You mean the ugly gland? ;-)
: :>
: :>Kovacuous. Wally Keeler is right.
: :>Word at the women's dormatory washroom has it that your's is a scrawny
: :>chicken neck. KoVACUOUS. Ha ha ha. Now that's a witty play on words --
: :>and so effectively appropriate. Good one Wally.
: :
: :That was almost funny! Keep up the good work Brigi, with some help you may
: :be able to think eventually. You'll be surprised when it happens.

: Your comeback was totally bereft of wit; it was as stale as a second-gland
: condom.

OOOOOOOooooooo! What sharpe wit! I like that in a woman. I give you first 
prize in the flame-line of the month awards. Congratulations.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Gubor Barsai vomited:
:>:>> OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.
:>:>
:>:><yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>
:>:
:>:Such intentional uninterest can only mean one thing: you want me, you old
:>:dog...
:>
:>Regardless, you remain witless </yawn> and unoriginal </yawn>. Read Wally
:
:Regardless? So you do want me...

I much prefer cancer, than you. Obviously you are a bonehead -- unable to 
get the message.

:>Keeler's posts -- those have wit and originality. Compared to the 
:freshness of
:>his posts, your's are as stale as Zsa Zsa Gabor's current complexion.
:
:What's it like being a girl? Do you think nature played a cruel trick on 
:you?

The only cruel trick that was ever played on women was your birth. You 
are still stale Goober

:If you want originality, watch "Planet of the D-Cups".

Probably you are right since you are are incapable of getting it up -- 
your wit, your creativity. What a dull boy you are! Your personality 
would fit in one half of a 28AA.

Wally Keeler ) wrote:
: Brigitta Bali ) wrote:
: : In >
: :  (Gyorgy Kovacs)
: : :In article >,
: : :Brigitta Bali > wrote:
: : : (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
: : :>>OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.
: : :>
: : : (Gyorgy Kovacs)acts dumb:
: : :>|You mean the ugly gland? ;-)
: : :>
: : :>Kovacuous. Wally Keeler is right.
: : :>Word at the women's dormatory washroom has it that your's is a scrawny
: : :>chicken neck. KoVACUOUS. Ha ha ha. Now that's a witty play on words --
: : :>and so effectively appropriate. Good one Wally.
: : :
: : :That was almost funny! Keep up the good work Brigi, with some help you may
: : :be able to think eventually. You'll be surprised when it happens.

: : Your comeback was totally bereft of wit; it was as stale as a second-gland
: : condom.

: OOOOOOOooooooo! What sharpe wit! I like that in a woman. I give you first 
: prize in the flame-line of the month awards. Congratulations.

Thank you thank you thank you. I accept the award. If you examine the 
posts I think you'll notice that the origanal staleness came from Goober 
Barfsai.

Gil G Silberman ) wrote:
: First, a word about the newsgroup list, and crossposting in general.

: I have posted twice on this thread, and both times received miscellaneous
: email requests to keep this out of one particular newsgroup or another.  
: While I do sympathize with the sentiment behind the email, I think these
: requests are misguided and, under the circumstances, offensive.

: First, in a practical sense, there is no reasonable way to prune the
: newsgroup list once the thread has started.  After the original
: poster created such a large list, people responded from many 
: different groups.  I have no way of knowing where a post came
: from, who is interested and who is not.  An email message or
: a post asking me to stay away only represents the view of a single
: person, and I cannot tell if it is the wish of the newsgroup as
: a whole -- not to mention that I do not necessarily have to respect
: the will of the newsgroup.  I post where I want, not where people
: like what I have to say.  As an excample, this thread contains
: some posts on anti-semitism in Poland, as well as a request or 
: two to keep Jewish vs. anti-semite material out of 
: soc.cultural.polish!  

Mr. Silberman,

I am posting from soc.culture.russian. I saw the original post. It was one 
of three or four posts from the same author deliberately designed to 
create controversy and widely crossposted for that reason. I responded to 
one of those posts by asking the author to get himself acquainted with 
some real Jewish people so he could find out they are no better and no 
worse than anyone else. Other people responded differently. Now you come 
along and say everyone has a right to post everywhere they want, and no 
one has a right to complain. I disagree.

The soc.culture.* groups are _not_ for discussing anti-semitism. They are 
for discussing CULTURE. Each of these groups has a charter, and the 
charter tells what is on-topic and what is off-topic for each of these 
groups. Posters are expected to pay some respect to the charter. Those 
who don't may expect to hear from regulars in a newsgroup who don't want 
to see all this off-charter stuff in their newsgroup. I support that 
general proposition. I have received notes and sent notes myself about 
inappropriate crossposting.

You do raise an issue, however, when you say you don't know where the 
posts originated from. I have a suggested solution, which I plan to follow 
from now on. Every time I crosspost (which is rare) or respond to a 
crossposted article, I will sign off as "Posting from ______________", and 
insert the name of the group from which I am posting. Then, if someone 
wants to object, they know exactly where to write.

Sincerely,

Henrietta Thomas
Posting from soc.culture.russian


P.S. I did not trim newsgroups because I want everyone to see this. My 
apologies in advance to anyone who is offended.

Michael D. Berger wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to obtain copies of these documents
> translated into English and in digital form:
> 
>     Council of Europe Recommendation 1201
> 
>     Romanian Education Law
> 
>     Slovak Law on the Protection of the Republic
> 
> I would appreciate any assistance you could provide.
> Thank you very much.
> 
> --
> |----------------------|--------------------------------------------|
> | Michael D. Berger    | "Above the clouds, the sun always shines." |
> |   |        Csongvay Attila (1940-1993)         |
> |----------------------|--------------------------------------------|

>From the new Slovak Penal Code articles draft, also known as "The Law onthe Pr
otection of the Republic"  (after SME daily of 26 March 1996, URL
http://savba.savba.sk/logos/news/sme/index260396.html#30) :

Article 91

HIGH TREASON

A citizen of the Slovak Republic who in connection with a foreign power
or with a foreign agent commits the crime of subversion of the Republic
(Art. 92), terror (Art. 93 and 93a), petty sabotage [slov. zaskodnictvo]
(Art. 95 and 96) or sabotage [slov. sabotaz] (Art. 97), will be punished
by loss of freedom for twelve to fifteen years or by exceptional 
punition.


SUBVERSION OF THE REPUBLIC

Art. 92a

Who, with an intention to subvert the constitutional order, territorial
integrity or the defense of the Republic or to destroy its independence,
commits the crime of attacking a State organ after Art. 154, attacking
of a public agent [slov. verejny cinitel] after Art. 155 al.1, violence
against a group of citizen and against individual after Art. 196,
dehonesting [slov. hanobenie] of a nation, race or conviction after
Art. 198, instigation of racial or national hate after Art. 198a,
spreading an alarm news after Art. 199 al. 1 and 2 or violating the
freedom of association [slov. zdruzovanie] and gathering [slov.
zhromazdovanie] after Art. 238 a, will be punished by loss of freedom
of one to five years or by a financial penalty.

Art. 92b

(1) Who, with an intention to subvert the constitutional order,
territorial integrity or the defense of the Republic or to destroy its
independence, organises a public assembly of the citizen, will be
punished by loss of freedom for six months to three years or by a
financial penalty.

(2) With a penalty of loss of the freedom of one to five years will
be punished the perpetrator who

a) commits the deed quoted in the al.1 as a member of an organised group

b) commits such a deed in war emergency times [slov. branna pohotovost
statu, fr. pied de guerre] or

c) commits such a deed in connection with a foreign power or with a
foreign agent


Art. 98

DAMAGING THE INTERESTS OF THE REPUBLICS

Who, as a citizen of the Slovak Republic or a person without nationality
with a permanent residence on the territory of the Slovak Republic,
intentionally spreads abroad false informations that damage the
interests of the Republic, will be punished by loss of freedom up to
two years or with a financial penalty.


VIOLATING THE FINANCIAL DISCIPLINE

Art. 127a

(1) Who violates or failes to fulfill a legally prescribed or
contractually agreed obligation toward the State, commune [slov. obec]
or Fund of National Property of Slovak Republic (FNM SR) in connection
with drawing or using the funds from the State budget, State fund,
communal budget or budget of the Fund of the National Property, or in
connection with the transfer [slov. prevod] or transfer [slov. prechod]
of the property of the State or transfer [slov. prevod]  of the property
of a commune or FNM SR on other persons and causes a significant damage
or wins a significant material advantage to himself or to a third person,
will be punished by loss of freedom from six months to three years or
by inderdiction of activity or by a financial penalty.

Art. 127b

Who violates or failes to fulfill a legally prescribed obligation toward
the Health Insurance, in which the State participates on solvability, or
toward FNM SR and causes a significant damage or wins a significant
profit for himself or for a third person, will be punished by loss of
freedom up to two years or by interdiction of activity or by a financial
penalty.

-----------------

Disclaimer: Sorry for the poor quality of translation. I am neither a
professional translator nor a legal professional. The text may be suited
to make a personal opinion about the new legal reform but for official
purpose, it would be a good idea to have it reviewed by a professional
translator. Feel free to use where appropriate. All disclaimers apply.




-- 
pnm
http://www.smartlink.net/~matush/

Pavel N. Matustik wrote:
I need to appologize: the translation was done by Mr. Kanala, and he 
deserves the credit.

Pavel

> 
> -----------------
> 
> Disclaimer: Sorry for the poor quality of translation. I am neither a
> professional translator nor a legal professional. The text may be suited
> to make a personal opinion about the new legal reform but for official
> purpose, it would be a good idea to have it reviewed by a professional
> translator. Feel free to use where appropriate. All disclaimers apply.
>

Wally Keeler > wrote:
>Kovacs is an all too typical self-centred autoerotic homophobic misogynist
>flavoured as a whining hypocrite, ie, he's KoVACUOUS!

Gayorgy KoVACUOUS queried:
       |I wonder what would be the evidence of me being
       |- self centered
       |- autoerotic
       |- homophobic
       |- misogynist (whatever the heck that means)
       |- whining hypocrite

The evidence is your posts. Misogynist? You don't know what that means and
you're going to University? God, I overdid it when I said you were as
bright as a 10 watt bulb -- actually, you are as bright as piece of
charcoal left over from last weeks bbq. 

|But not really, so don't bother. It would be too easy to join in some
|friendly name calling, but I don't want to sink to that level.

Oh, ok. don't sink to that level.

|"It's not what you say, it's who you are."
|If a nobody said it, it's nothing. You said it, consequently nothing was
|said.

True to his word, he sank to that level. 
Such is the hypocrite -- one cannot trust him at his word. 
Some evidence:
|>:As I promised, no more postings in a previous stupid thread. Here is an
|>:other one:
|>
|>:|...so I'm out of it, this is my last post in this stupid thread.

So much for KoVACUOUS's word.

:-)         |o (Gyorgy Kovacs) whined:                       o|
:-)         |o >You misspell my name on purpose, which is    o|
:-)         |o >rather insulting and childish.               /
:-)         |o        /\                              /\    /
:-)         |/\/\/\  /  \/\/\      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/  \/\/
:-)                \/        \/\/\/

</sob> </sob> </sniffle> </sniffle>
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

With all due respect sir, but you seem to be at least 
an ignorant.... yourself, and intentionally trying to 
flame the already hot topic!
PC

On 7 Apr 1996, James Garner wrote:

> ussian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.jewish
> References: > 
ol.com> >
> Distribution: 
> 
> Dan K. ) wrote:
> : To All:
> 
> :I wish all a truly happy Easter on the remembrance day of the Lord's
> :Resurrection.  It is unbelievable but true that Jesus of Nazareth was
> :truly the Son of God and the long awaited Messiah of the Prophets of
> :Israel. 
> 
> 	Since you posted this on the Jewish newsgroup, where it most 
> assuredly does not belong, I am compelled to offer a minor correction.
> 
> 	Jesus was not the Messiah, and was not the "Son of God". He was 
> the bastard son of an adulterous woman, who offended the Romans with his 
> mutterings and in the end could not even save himself, let alone the 
> Jewish people, and was nailed on a piece of wood for his efforts. And the 
> only thing that rises is dough, not your "God-on-a-stick."
> 
> 	I am pleased to have the opportunity to correct your
> misimpressions. In the future, if you and your ilk wish to avoid having
> your favorite boy Jesus correctly identified, you may wish to avoid
> posting such crap on a Jewish newsgroup. 
> 
> 	Have a *really* nice day.
> 
>

 (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
>> OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.

Brigitta Bali >
><yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>

 (Gabor Barsai)
|Such intentional uninterest can only mean one thing: you want me, 
|you old dog...

Rape victim: I told him no...
Rapist: ...which means yes your honour
Rape victim: I slapped his face,,,
Rapist: ...which meant she loved to be punished your honour
Rape victim: I ran towards the door...
Rapist: ...which meant she wanted to be in bondage your honour
Rape victim: I called him a bastard...
Rapist: ...which meant she loved and wanted me your honour.

Typical misogynist! You're right Brigitta, his responses bear no trace of
wit, no humour, no originality -- only origanalty -- pertaining to his
origins. 
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

 (Gyorgy Kovacs)acts dumb:
>|You mean the ugly gland? ;-)

Brigitta Bali > wrote:
>Kovacuous. Wally Keeler is right.
>Word at the women's dormatory washroom has it that your's is a scrawny
>chicken neck. KoVACUOUS. Ha ha ha. Now that's a witty play on words --
>and so effectively appropriate. Good one Wally.

 (Gyorgy Kovacs) wrote:
|That was almost funny! Keep up the good work Brigi, with some help you may
|be able to think eventually. You'll be surprised when it happens.

Check it out Brigitta. KoVACUOUS has no ability for original metaphor nor
simile nor of original wit. I liked your chicken neck image. (If only he
took that prophylactic off his frontal lobe, he could be a human.) He is
incapable even of wordplay. Probably too much selfplay. He is unable to
rise above the bland and banal. Regrettably, it's likely that he'll never
be surprised.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Subject: Re: The Witlessness of Gabor Barsai was Re: Hicks, was Re:
Chicks?

In article >,
> wrote:
>Brigitta Bali > wrote:
>To Barsai:
>><yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>
>
>Brigitta:
>Just remember the old saying about the barking dogs.  Gabor's
>immature obsession with the same subject can only mean that he seldom
>gets any.  Lacking it, our fake "Don Juan" likes to talk about it.
>Joe

 (Gabor Barsai) wrote:
|Joe, you sound like you were never young in the spring time. What else
|would I think about? Tell me you never think about it when you're
|crossing a park full of women in bikinis.

I'm quite sure that Joe thinks about it. Why wouldn't he? That is not the
point. I have no doubt that he regards them as women, that is to say, the
whole package, the unique personality that animates the body, his
engagement with that unique personality as well as the body. Let's put it
in this old metaphor: Joe regards women as a unique, rare and fine wine,
something to savour, to honour and celebrate, something to behold,
something to surrender to, something that realy does get better as it
ages, and not as you regard it -- a glass of grape juice to be guzzled
down. Joe regards women as women, whereas, you regard women as a life-
support system for a cunt. An inflatable pneumatic doll would be
sufficient for you and it would match your personality -- thin-skinned and
insubstantial. And for what I know of Joe, he is WELL HUNGary.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

In article >,
 (Gyorgy Kovacs) says:
>- misogynist (whatever the heck that means)

In article >
 (George Szaszvari)
>It means *woman-hater*.

In article >,
 (Gyorgy Kovacs) asks:
|- "woman-hater" (what the heck is a woman?)

Your mother, dipstick.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Brigitta Bali ) wrote:
:  (Wally Keeler) wrote:
: : (Gyorgy Kovacs) wrote:
: :|Brigitta Bali > wrote:
: : (Christina Magyar)
: :|>>Gyorgy Kovacs ) wrote:
: :|[stuff deleted]
: :|>>Just want to clear something up for you guys, ya there are chicks,
: :|>>females, women, ladies, or what ever you want to call us reading the
: :|>>articles in this section.       [stuff deleted]
: :|>>Personaly I think this discussion is getting out of hand.
: :|>
: :|>Given the onanistic quality of the male porkers above, I think they
: :|>have everything in hand. <laughter> <applause> <cheers>
: :|
: :|Where in the heck did the 'onanistic quality' come from? What's the base?
: :
: :For God's sake! Talk about KoVACUOUS! You're about as bright as a ten watt
: :bulb running on a burntout AAA battery. 

: You're being a bit too generous Wally. The Energizer Bunny is more quick
: witted than GagOrgy KoVACUOUS. However, I do give him his due -- I sense
: that he is a man with a high IQ.

You are being generous to a fault here. Aren't you making a mistake?

: :I think, Brigitta, he is trying now the sincere approach in an attempt to
: :engage you in a serious dialogue.

: Let him try. I much prefer a witty conversation, something with a zest for
: life, something rich with images, fresh and original.

: :Check his hands for callouses first.

: The women's world wide web washroom wall (W6) says his hands are scaley,
: with the exception of Friday nights when they are oily. Yech!

-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Wally Keeler ) wrote:
: Brigitta Bali ) wrote:
: :  (Wally Keeler) wrote:
: : : (Gyorgy Kovacs) wrote:
: : :|Brigitta Bali > wrote:
: : : (Christina Magyar)
: : :|>>Gyorgy Kovacs ) wrote:
: : :|[stuff deleted]
: : :|>>Just want to clear something up for you guys, ya there are chicks,
: : :|>>females, women, ladies, or what ever you want to call us reading the
: : :|>>articles in this section.       [stuff deleted]
: : :|>>Personaly I think this discussion is getting out of hand.
: : :|>
: : :|>Given the onanistic quality of the male porkers above, I think they
: : :|>have everything in hand. <laughter> <applause> <cheers>
: : :|
: : :|Where in the heck did the 'onanistic quality' come from? What's the base?
: : :
: : :For God's sake! Talk about KoVACUOUS! You're about as bright as a ten watt
: : :bulb running on a burntout AAA battery. 

: : You're being a bit too generous Wally. The Energizer Bunny is more quick
: : witted than GagOrgy KoVACUOUS. However, I do give him his due -- I sense
: : that he is a man with a high IQ.

: You are being generous to a fault here. Aren't you making a mistake?

Omigod! You must think I have been referring to his Intelligence 
Quotient. No no no. His Idiocy Quotient. 

: : :I think, Brigitta, he is trying now the sincere approach in an attempt to
: : :engage you in a serious dialogue.

: : Let him try. I much prefer a witty conversation, something with a zest for
: : life, something rich with images, fresh and original.

: : :Check his hands for callouses first.

: : The women's world wide web washroom wall (W6) says his hands are scaley,
: : with the exception of Friday nights when they are oily. Yech!

: -- 
: Wally Keeler					Poetry
: Creative Intelligence Agency			is
: Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

In article >,
Brigitta Bali > drooled:
>I much prefer cancer, than you. Obviously you are a bonehead -- unable to
>get the message.

Now, now, temper, temper. Being nice to me won't change my mind about you.

>The only cruel trick that was ever played on women was your birth. You
>are still stale Goober

I don't remember you tasting me...oh, well, I guess I didn't miss much.

>:If you want originality, watch "Planet of the D-Cups".
>
>Probably you are right since you are are incapable of getting it up --
>your wit, your creativity. What a dull boy you are! Your personality
>would fit in one half of a 28AA.

You're funny! The only thing better than your posts is your spelling and
grammar. What is one half of a 28AA? Just one cup?

So tell moi...how many cadavers have you seen lately?

Gabor

In article >,
Chris Jackel > wrote:
|    I'm hoping you could help me out with the term for cell-phone. My
| girlfriend is a native Hungarian who wants to be able to write home about
| her job selling phones... however, she never learned the term.  I wouldn't
| be surprised if it is simply a corrupted form of the english word like
| many of the adopted foreign terms.
| 
| Thanks in advance for any assistance.
| 
| -- 
| Chris Jackel
| 

The two terms I've heard are radiotelefon and maroktelefon.

Istvan

GZUZisLORD ) wrote:
: Karl,

: I find your posting VERY disturbing and full of small minded prejudice.
: Have you ever read a book on Jewish history and read about all the hate
: crimes committed against them by so called Catholics and Christians?  Are
: you aware of what happened to the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition for
: example and how Jews were forced either to convert to Catholism or be
: crucified?. It seems to me that you are typical small minded southern,How
: do you like to be stereo typed? You cannot tolerate people different from
: you.

:   I am a Jew from NY who now lives in California.  I was told how
: obnoxious I was my entire life. New York Jews are just very real and not
: phoney.  The reason the Goyim world or gentile world hates the Jews, is
: obvious.  THEY ARE JEALOUS.  Jews as a people have had tremendous success
: in making money and are very gifted in music and art.  Jews have Chutzpah,
: or boldness.  God has blessed the Jews whether they believe in Him or not,
: they are His chosen people and He loves them. 

: You say Jews are cursed by God. Where did you make that one up, and you
: view it through your own ignorance and stupidity. I will answer some of
: your letter from a Spiritual point of reference.  Do you not know that the
:  New Testament which was written by the Hebrews.. As a Jew I read the
: Bible and thought I could educate you a little with the truth.  First of
: all Jesus was a Jew, Paul was a Rabbi, and a former Pharisee, and God
: still loves the Jews

:  Paul wrote in Romans 3:1 "Then what advantage has the Jew?  Or what is
: the benefit of circumcision?  2.  Great in every respect.  First of all,
: that they were entrusted with the oracles of God"  What then?  If some did
: not believe their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will
: it? 4.  May it never be!  Rather let God be found true, thogh every man be
: found a liar:  Yes, Let God be found true  .  Read chapeter 10, 11 and you
: will read how GOD loves the Jews.  You call yourself a Christian? Are you
: really? A true Christian loves the Jews, the Messiah, and are greatful for
: the Jewish Bible.  

:  The covenant God made to Abraham, Issac and Jacob are eternal.Abrahamic
: Covenant Genesis 12:1-3  22:15-18 To Abraham,  "By Myself I have sworn,
: declares the Lord, because you hve done this thing, and have not withheld
: your son, your only son, indeed I will greatly bless you and will greatly
: multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is
: on the seashore; and your seed shall possess the gate of their enemies, 
: And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed because you
: have obeyed my voice".  And this is what has happened. 

: You sound like he KKK, and white supremacy.  By the way I am forwarding
: your letter to AOL, and The Anti-Deformation League of Bnai Brith. 

: Andrea
:  writing under a guest 

Just for the record:

Last year, when Gabor presented his usual springtime question about chicks in
the newsgroup, I reminded him first that it's more respectful to call them
ladies, or women. So much about being a misogynist.
Wally Keeler accuses me with not living up to my promise of stepping out from a
thread. False of course, I never posted anything further in the "Gay Life in
Budapest" thread. ( You lied Wally)

| wondered what would be the evidence of me being
 - self centered
 - autoerotic
 - homophobic
 - misogynist (whatever the heck that means)
 - whining hypocrite

The best he could come up with was: "The evidence is your posts." He keeps it 
secret even from himself which parts he is referring to, just like Dima did not
too long ago.

Than he acts surprised: "Misogynist? You don't know what that means and you're 
going to University?"  I wonder which major requires the knowledge of the term
for hating women.

He considers name calling that I regard to his trash as unimportant (nothing), 
so I am not really surprised by his latest stunt.

Without base ha claims that
<Quote
 (Gyorgy Kovacs) asks:
|- "woman-hater" (what the heck is a woman?)

Your mother, dipstick.
<Unquote

If you followed my posts (I hope you did not get too bored) you see that I
never asked a dumb question like that. Well that's a real unmodified Dimaist 
method from Wally, and of course just an other lie.

And for the finish: I guess I just figured out why Wally jumped on me for 
refusing to consider Budapest as  a Gay Resort (which it isn't):

From:  (Wally Keeler)
Subject: Gabor Barsai & Mr WELL HUNGary
 ......................................... And for what I know of Joe, he is 
WELL HUNGary.

Please keep reading the newsgroup, there is good stuff in it too, not only 
Wally's Poems and Brigitta's Novels.
GK

I'm doing a project about adidas, and I was wondering if anyone had 
information about adidas in hungary!

John Zelenz
Western Carolina University

Olvastam egy kishirt, de nem tudok valoszolni, mert az e-mail mindig 
visszajon. Ki tud segiteni ?

Please, help me. I need his e-mail-adresse.

Thank you
                              Gabor

Hallo,

who know him, I need the e-mail-adresse.

Thank you
                                 Gabor

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