In > "paradox" wrote:

>Murat Kalinyaprak > wrote in article 
>
> You sure are am embesile....How can one be so self-centered,
> ethno-centric, ill-informed, ignorant to the degree of pathetic....

I was asking you smart-alecks exactly the same thing... 

There was a list of about 70 words, compared in 5 or so
languages... If you are not an "imbecile, self-centered,
ethno-centric, ill-informed, ignorant pathetic" yourself
then stop raving, and disprove the similarities claimed
among those words in those languages...

> Anyway, obviously you've not spent a lot of time away from
> your com-patriots to hear non-Turkish/Arabic/Persian sounds.

How did you know...? :)

> In about every language there are certain sounds that are
> universally shared. They are mostly related to immediate
> family, basic survival level things that surround you...

Fine mister, then cut the baloney and get to work...! All
you have to do is to show that there are German, Spanish,
Zulu, Cherokee, Andes, Kurdish, etc. (as you had claimed)
words as similar to those 70 Sumerian words (as the words
given in Finnish, Hungarian, Turkish and Mongolian)...

> To give a few examples: tomato, potato, lemon, pilot,
> motor, yat, etc....:)))))

Impressive...! In my previous posting, I dared you guys
to: "show us all how much brain you've got and what you
eat for breakfast"... Are the above is what you eat for
breakfast...? :)

>> comparing all 70 words to German, Zulu, Spanish,
>> Cherokee, Andes and Kurdish (and whatever else
>> you like)...?
>> 
>> Do you think you can do it...?
>> If you want to give it a try, I'll be more than
>> happy to help you out by re-posting the original
>> list... :)
>> If you can't do it, then shove your arrogance...!
>
> DOWN BOY!!!!!TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND HOLD FOR
> 3 SECONDS BEFORE YOU SPEAK!:) 

Desperate remarks will not help your belly-aching... :(

Below are the Sumerian words that have been compared to
Finnish, Hungarian, Turkish and Mongolian. All you need
to do is find similar correspondances to them in German,
Zulu, Spanish, Cherokee, Andes and Kurdish...

Should be a piece of cake for a "smart one" like you...
In fact if it will help you, you may pick another set of
70 Sumerian words to compare with German, Zulu, Spanish,
Cherokee, Andes and Kurdish ones...

Now get to work...!

> -------------------------------------------------------
Sumerian:       bur 411,104 (to drill, to riddle with holes)
Sumerian:       bar 74, 68/302 (family, village)
Sumerian:       bur3 411,32 (livestock, four-legged animal, cow)
Sumerian:       bad 69,100 (to fall apart, to be fallen)
Sumerian:       bad 152 8,4 (wall, stuffing)
Sumerian:       gab 167,55/57a (to grasp, to get, to catch)
Sumerian:       ab(-ba) 128,13a (father)
Sumerian:       s^ub 68,9 (to flatten)
Sumerian:       gab 167,56 (copy, picture, duplicate)
Sumerian:       gib-i/=gig/446,3/4 (be sick, pain, illness)
Sumerian:       gir11 152,19 (to stretch)
Sumerian:       sig 592, 10ff (tight, narrow)
Sumerian:       gig 456,43 (hatred, to hate)
Sumerian:       s^ag5 356,5/7 (be healthy, good, goodness, nice)
Sumerian:       sig7 351,6 (to live, to sit)
Sumerian:       gis^ 296,10 (man, master, sir, gentleman)
Sumerian:       gal2 80,3 (to be)
Sumerian:       gur4 483,23 (to run, to flee)
Sumerian:       zag 332,43 (flatland, field)
Sumerian:       dug3 396,10/11 (good, healthy, optimal)
Sumerian:       dah 169,3/10 (one follows, by someone)
Sumerian:       kud 12,19 (city, hamlet)
Sumerian:       kad4 (to bind)
Sumerian:       bad3 152^8,7 (deathly ill, sickly)
Sumerian:       pa 295,11 (summit, peak)
Sumerian:       bu 371,25 (to blow)
Sumerian:       zub 60^x,4 (to flow, rain)
Sumerian:       ki 461,21 (who)
Sumerian:       kur2 60,34 (circle)
Sumerian:       kas^ 211a,2 (urine)
Sumerian:       kud 536,4 (to throw, to place, to allow)
Sumerian:       s^ita 233,15/442,2 (to bind)
Sumerian:       has^ 12,78 (be bending)
Sumerian:       hir 401,9 (picture)
Sumerian:       has^ 12,70/73 (to cut, to split)
Sumerian:       uh 398,6/17 (to spew, to vomit)
Sumerian:       sil(a) 12,117 (to split, to cut up)
Sumerian:       sig 592,10/19 (small, little)
Sumerian:       sag2 295,100a (to strike, to hit)
Sumerian:       hus 565,58 (to drive)
Sumerian:       s^ag 384,118/9 (to sigh, a sigh)
Sumerian:       s^ag 384,2 (word)
Sumerian:       s^e 367,58d (to eat)
Sumerian:       s^ug 367,11/2 (big, be big, much)
Sumerian:       s^eg8 551,4 (frost, ice, cold)
Sumerian:       us^ 4 536,26 (mind, intellect)
Sumerian:       as^ 2 339,8 (to long for, to want)
Sumerian:       gis^ 296,16 (hand)
Sumerian:       zal 231,16 (also: sal, s^al) (to see) 
Sumerian:       zal(ag) 393,5 (be lighted, star, to shine)
Sumerian:       zir 84,108 (suffering, hurt)
Sumerian:       izi 172,11/17/13 (fire, oven, ash, to flame up)
Sumerian:       izi 172.159 (sour)
Sumerian:       zig 84,45 (to raise oneself, to get oneself up)
Sumerian:       ri 86,41,74 (to fly)
Sumerian:       sir3 152,3(also: sur, s^ar, sing, song, compose music)
Sumerian:       er 50,7 (also: ir, ur) (man, manly)
Sumerian:       bar 74,100 (to frighten oneself, to scare)
Sumerian:       ur2 203,7 (underground, ground)
Sumerian:       ma 342,98b/10 (also: ma-da) (land, earth, homeland)
Sumerian:       ma 233,2 (to go)
Sumerian:       ma3 233,3a (I)
Sumerian:       eme 237,2 (also: ama) (mother)
Sumerian:       gam 362,6 (it bends over)
Sumerian:       na 97,4 (be named, call)
Sumerian:       du3 230,19 (known, experienced, knowledge)
> -------------------------------------------------------

MK

Steve Kiely wrote:
> 
> Name one (1) country with a racist-free history:
> 
> 1.
> 
> Steve Kiely
> http://www.magna.com.au/~c41

It's a matter of degree.

In article >, 
 says...
>
>I will be moving to Budapest nest year and would like any information on
>golf courses in Hungary.  I've heard that there are none in the area. 
>Please tell me it isn't true!!!!!
>
>Please reply via E-Mail
>
>isubaby

I am afraid it is.  I can't  be sure, of course, since I live in Canada, 
but I was in Budapest last year, and nobody told me about golf courses.  
You see, the Hungarians are not golfers, it is a British sport.  However, 
there are not so many Northamericans working there that they established 
one maybe.  Call the consulate and ask.

Agnes

In the USA, where is the highest concentration of Hungarians.  Please
name the city and state.  I'm very curious.


Janos Berenyi Jr.

ZAHR ) wrote:
: In > Steve Kiely > writes: 
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: >Name one (1) country with a racist-free history:
: >
: >1.LEBANON
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: >Steve Kiely
: >http://www.magna.com.au/~c41


Are you out of your mind? Is this a joke? 

--

 (JBocskai) wrote:

>HI - My name is Jan Bocskai.

>I am first generation Italian, married to a Hungarian who also was a
>Freedom Fighter, like your dad.  I respect your interest in the language
>and, I might add, Hungarian culture is very interesting and colorful.  You
>have a lot to be proud of!

> I was formerly with an airline and had the opportunity to spend some time
>with John's family to "digest' the language.  There are English/Hungarian
>Dictionaries and Hungarian/English Dictionaires sold primarily in
>Budapest, Vaci Ut., a very popular walking street (closed to car traffic).
>They are helpful, but dictionaries do not resolve the problem entirely.   
>  

>Check into:
>Contact the Educational Services Corp.  1725 K St, NW /Suite 408,
>Washington D.C.  20006  Tele 202-29808424.   

>I obtained a very basic elementary introductory audio-tape "Language 30"
>from them some time ago.  They also have more comprehensive learning tapes
>available.  

>Please let me know how you progress and good luck in your search.

>Jan and John


>   

>  

>  
Hi !

I didn't catch the original post, so I don't know who I'm talking to,
sorry.
If you're in the USA then check out a company called Audio Forum (
1-800-243-1234 ) ask for thier free catalog.  They have materials for
almost any language you could come up with, including Magyar.

Good luck!

As an American who successfully learned Hungarian relatively well I can
say that the only way to *really* learn Hungarian is to live there. I was
there for two years and spoke Hungarian almost exclusively. I learned for
a while before I went there but the real learning occurs when you can get
there. If that is not practical I think you can learn reading OK but you
will have a hard time learning to speak fluently.

Concerning resources I have heard that the book Teach Yourself Hungarian
is quite good. I have not personally used it but I have looked through it
and can attest that whoever wrote it is at least aware of the cultural
aspects of the language so that you get semi-real dialogue instead of the
usual "How are you Comrade Horvath? Was your vacation on the Balaton
suitably relaxing?" kind of stuff one gets in the older Communist era
textbooks.

Overall I found the Hungarians I knew to be wuite supportive when I
learned the language. They were patient and enthusiastic about my efforts.
By far the most friendly people I know of to learners.

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On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:47:29 -0800,  (Dan Lommel)
wrote:

>>I don't know much about Iceland, Liechtenstein or Luxembourg, but I can
>>tell you something about how the Danes oppressed the Eskimos in Greenland
>>for almost a thousand years.
>
>Hmmm. The Eskimoes did quite a number on the western settlement of Danes.

You can prove nothing! heh heh. Say, didn't those pesky Norse just
keep heading West......? I remember a couple of settlements west of
Greenland  in northern Canada that they suspect were Norse in origin.
Perhaps it got cold, they ran out of sheep, went completely crazy and
ate each other up. Better still, how about the possibility that they
integrated into Greenlandic settlements and were absorbed into the
population. How often were the supply ships checking up on Eric and
his merry crew......every hundred years. As McDonald's says: "hey, it
could happen!"

>I don't know much about Iceland, Liechtenstein or Luxembourg, but I can
>tell you something about how the Danes oppressed the Eskimos in Greenland
>for almost a thousand years.

Hmmm. The Eskimoes did quite a number on the western settlement of Danes.

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STOP PUTTING THIS ON THE WEB, ASSHOLE!

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> The following article about Nikki is periodically reposted to Usenet
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In article >,  () says
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>Persze en tudtam ki Mulroney, de tulajdonkepen miert utaltak annyira a
>honfitarsai?  Es akkor miert volt PM 8 evig?
>Annyira ostoba azert nem lehetett, ha angol anyanyelvu letere olyan jol
>tudott franciaul. ;-)
>
>Jozsi

Kedves Jozsi!

Mert o tette veglegesen tonkre Kanadat. Pl az o hazugsaga
fedezte a GST bevezeteset. (Ez egy 7%-os forgalmi ado.)

Jol tudott franciaul, mert Te is tudsz magyarul... Galamb 
Quebeci vakolo...

Masodszori ujravalasztasa ravaszul tortent, mert a kanadaiak vegulis 
a Free Trade-re szavaztak, abban a tevhitben, hogy olcsobb lesz minden.
Ehelyett az amerikai cegek kikoltoztek, es behozzak termekeiket (kinabol)
valamint az ado potlasara jott a Goods and Service Tax, amit Galamb 9%-ra
tervezett, de szerencsere csak 7 lett belole.

9 ev kellett, hogy a masodik szavazasra a kanadaiak ugy kibuktassak 
oket, hogy ket kepviselojuk maradt. De ez jelentektelen, mert itt
3-4 szocialista part kozul valaszthatsz ugyis.

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W Louw > wrote in article
>...
> Steve Kiely wrote:
> > 
> > Name one (1) country with a racist-free history:
> > 
> > 1.Antarctica!
> > 
> > Steve Kiely
> > http://www.magna.com.au/~c41
>

Good job!!!

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