At 11:01 AM 6/10/97 -0400, Joe Szalai wrote:
>At 02:49 PM 6/7/97 -0400, "Amos J. Danube" wrote:
>
>>   Wrong, Joe! As always, your marxist orientation misleads you. The
>>Marshall Plan became political (anti-communist)  "only" after Stalin
>>refused to accept aid for countries under its occupation.
>
>Oh puleeze, Amos!  If the shoe was on the other foot, and Stalin offered to
>rebuild Europe on a "communist" model, would Churchill and Roosevelt
>excepted the aid, or would they have made it 'political'?  My 'marxist
>orientation' may mislead me, but it appears that your pro-capitalist world
>view blinds you, and you believe that there is only one way, only one
>truth.  If only life was that simple.
>
>

Abraham Lincoln, well know cattle trader and one time President, once posed
the question: if a calf's tail were counted as a leg, how many legs would a
calf have?  Four, Abe anwered his own question, since a tail is not a leg.

And Stalin was no Truman, nor Molotov a Marshall.  The last thing that
would have occured to the Generalissimo and his Marxist gang was to
actually spend money on other countries, rather than strip them bare, take
their last ounce of meat and butter and have them pay reparations.  Indeed,
had a Russian actually suggested such an idea, he would have quickly found
himself building Socialism in the vast open spaces of Siberia.

regards from New York

Charlie Vamossy

At 02:49 PM 6/7/97 -0400, "Amos J. Danube" wrote:

>   Wrong, Joe! As always, your marxist orientation misleads you. The
>Marshall Plan became political (anti-communist)  "only" after Stalin
>refused to accept aid for countries under its occupation.

Oh puleeze, Amos!  If the shoe was on the other foot, and Stalin offered to
rebuild Europe on a "communist" model, would Churchill and Roosevelt
excepted the aid, or would they have made it 'political'?  My 'marxist
orientation' may mislead me, but it appears that your pro-capitalist world
view blinds you, and you believe that there is only one way, only one
truth.  If only life was that simple.

>> years.  However, many corporations have assets that are far greater than
that.
>(The amount of foreign investment in Hungary).
>
>   So what, Joe? Is there some meaningfull insight in this sentence?
>Being 'anti' simply to  be 'anti' has never  helped anything or any-
>body. You need much more to be constructive.

And you need to remove your pro-capitalist blinders.  If you did, you'd see
that I'm pro human rights, pro economic fairness, pro democracy, pro social
safety nets, and pro a whole lot of other things.  But, until you remove
your blinders, you won't see it.

Joe Szalai

When asked whether or not we are Marxists, our position is the same as that
of a physicist or a biologist who is asked if he is a "Newtonian," or if he
is a "Pasteurian."
           --- Che Guevara

At 01:11 PM 6/8/97 -0700, Gabor Fencsik wrote:

>In fact, if you have a few kopecks
>to spare, then I would suggest you stay away from those trashy Indonesian
>gold mining stocks they peddle on the Toronto Stock Exchange.  Instead,
>mosey on down to your favorite stock broker and pick up some Hungarian
>stock while it is still cheap.  After all, it is never too soon to think
>of your retirement days, is it?

If I were to invest, it would only be in companies that are ethical.
Unfortunately, ethics in business is an oxymoron -- almost without
exception.  It seems to be the nature of the beast.

Joe Szalai

"Goodness is the only investment that never fails."
         --- Henry David Thoreau